At my boyfriends house, a feral cat decided to have her kittens in one of his plant holders outside (its right next to his door). Its not quite covered from the rain, and its raining right now. I woke up thinking how wonderful the rain sounds and then thought about the kittens!! :( I can't go over there, but I'm so worried that they're getting drenched. Should I be worried? Will the Mama cat take them somewhere dry? Will her feral mother cat instincts kick in? She's very scared of people. I dont know that it we move the plant holder, if she'll be mad and move the kittens? We've been feeding her. Any advice? This wouldn't be so big of deal if my bf's phone wasnt off and I could get ahold of him to do something!
When the kittens are weened I do plan on trapping her to get her spayed and doing the same for the kittens when they're old enough. And I'll probably keep one or all four of them! :)
Another question, the plant holder is kinda high from the ground, I'd say about two feet, are the kittens going to be okay when they start wobbling around and trying to walk? Im afraid they'll fall off! I worry too much!! Thanx!!
When the kittens are weened I do plan on trapping her to get her spayed and doing the same for the kittens when they're old enough. And I'll probably keep one or all four of them! :)
Another question, the plant holder is kinda high from the ground, I'd say about two feet, are the kittens going to be okay when they start wobbling around and trying to walk? Im afraid they'll fall off! I worry too much!! Thanx!!
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Re: Stray feral kitties in the rain :(
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 10:29 AMFeral mommas will take care of their babies. She wouldn't let them come to harm. In most cases.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 10:48 AMActually, the vast majority of stray/feral kittens die horribly. The fact that the females can come into heat many times a year is what results in the majority of increased feral cats on the street.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:09 AMThanx for your optimism Cherie. I believe she will take care of them, like i said though i just worry too much!
She wont let anyone get near her so I'm going to have to figure out a way to trap her (humanely of course) so I can get her spayed when the kittens are weened. I strongly believe in getting your kitties or dogs spayed or neutered. There's enough animals without homes as it is! -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 12:08 PMSuch a difficult situation. I am so glad to hear that you plan to spay/neuter the momma and offspring. Feral animals often have a rough life and I strongly believe we can do much to help make it better.
In most cases, the maternal instinct will come out and the momma will care for the kittens, but not always as we would hope. It can be tough to realize that they don't have the same standards as people or our furry domestic friends. In nature, not all kittens, or other offspring for that matter, will receive the care we might expect. For example, the runt of the litter or one with some type of defect will likely be ignored or worse. The momma animal has to care for those that can be expected to survive, for the good of the species.
Years ago, my mother "rescued" a family of feral cats during a terrible freeze and, sadly, things did not turn out very well. Most of the kittens were terrified of human contact and were never spayed or neutered. One boy impregnated his sister. She was trying to groom him and wound up eating his leg. It was absolutely devastating.
But on a brighter note, some of the kittens have adjusted to the domestic routine and are rather affectionate and cuddly.
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 9:40 AMMomma Kitty obviously has some sort of Mom-Instincts, she had the kittens close to the house and is taking food from humans. Hopefully the kittens will be used to some human contact, and you will be able to Tame them. Sounds like Momma might be tougher.
Once the babies are weaned, get them fixed First, then Momma. Once they are fixed, Momma will most likely not welcome them back, so have a plan for the babies.
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 12:09 PMAnother thing to note, the vast majority of first time feral cat queens do not take care of their offspring. The first litter tends to die due to neglect. It is rare to get a first timer to raise a complete litter.
Fix the queen first, since she can come into heat before she is finished suckling the kittens and become pregnant again. When the kittens are about 5 months old, get them fixed.
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 11:46 AMI hope they are doing better.One thing I've learned from painful experience is you have to let her take care of her own.Don't touch them,don't hang around them,just act as if they aren't there.Sounds merciless and cruel,but 9 times out of 10 she will move them to a better spot when she feels safe enough to do so and especially if your or anything elses scent isn't on them.I'm afraid if you do move them,the plant holder,or interfere she will abandon them.And that young sadly they won't likely survue even if you took them in and bottlefed them.It's painful to watch and deal with,but all you can do is hope for the best.If she is a good mother with strong instincts and experience she'll most likely move them.If she does let her be,wait till their weaned before trying to handle them.Been through this a million times,constantly have people drop off strays that turn out pregnant.If only spaying wasn't so expensive! the males are no big deal,the females are outragious,but has to be done.Best of luck,hope her and the babies are doing fine. -
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 12:26 PMI do have one important thing to think about in the situation of ferals. One big thing to consider is the age of the mother. I have found that cats in their first year of having litters can be more unlikely to take care of their little ones. Sometimes instincts aren't mature enough yet, or their bodies don't produce enough milk and they abandon them.
My suggestion is just to keep an eye on them. if they seem sickly or she's not taking care of them, check with your local pet store or shelter for someone in the area who might have the knowlage to raise undereaged kittens. If you find someone and she isn't taking care of them wait till she out one time and take the kittens from the nest and bring them to someone who can help them. Just be careful, even young kittens can bite. (I know from personal experience) -
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 6:58 PMCheck the local shelters and find out if there is a group in your area that traps feral cats, spay/neuters them then returns them. There are these groups all over the place.
We foster kitties for a shelter here in Humboldt. No doubt they are often from feral moms. Best thing for the kitties is to have their mommy...they do a much better job than humans can do. I have experience with this!
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 4:26 PM<...Just be careful, even young kittens can bite. (I know from personal experience)...>
Their little toofies are as sharp as sewing needles. Oweeee!
It must get interesting for Mommy to nurse them during that phase when they have their baby teeth, but still haven't been weaned. -
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:20 AM<...Just be careful, even young kittens can bite. (I know from personal experience)...>
Yep, I had an experience with this also. My mother rescued a momma cat and her kittens during a terribly cold night. We brought them into the house, planning to keep them in one separate room until it was a little warmer and we could let them out again. Well, one little one escaped and hid behind the toilet. As I struggled to return her to her mother, she caused major damage on my thumb. It was so bad that I couldn't get my keys in and out of the car ignition, but had to reach around with the other hand. My thumb swelled up so big. I went to the doctor and took some antibiotics, but just had to wait for it to heal.
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Re: Stray feral kitties in the rain :(
Fri, May 2, 2008 - 7:42 PMThanx everyone for your input!! So far Mama cat is doing much better, she lets us pet her and she is eating the food we put out. Maybe she wasnt as feral as she first perceived. I knew not to touch to her kittens also, and It was hard because they were so damn cute but I reframed. Sad news is one of the kittens is missing and we have looked and looked for it but cant find the poor thing. The rest are doing well. I just need to find a way to keep them from fall out of the flower pot when they really start walking lol! They've got their cute little eye open and crawling around now!!
Thanx again everyone, even the people who told me the harsh reality of what can happen :) Thats one of the reasons I was worried, I know not all mama cats are good moms, but hoped for the best!! Thank you!! -
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 7:53 PMThat's a relief,hope you can find the missing one.It's one thing that has always torn me up about cats,I feel so deeply about each one of them(even the meanies) that I guess I get over attached.But hell how can you not? Kittens in a flowerpot,that has to be priceless.Glad she's chilling out and learning to trust.Best of luck.
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Tue, May 6, 2008 - 7:10 AMOh I went through this situation too! (Brings back memories!)
Only this Mama cat had her litter in a neighbor's outdoor dog house, that was trying to be used by... um, the family dog! To defend her little ones, Mama was strutting & hissing from side to side, patrolling her turf. Once I found out that one of my husband's brothers (who lived up on the hill to the house) was coming down with *a beebee gun* - I had to make a move!!!!
We hatched a plan. Although hissy and protective, when we brought out an opened can of tuna, Mama bypassed her fear of us for the food. She was famished, and desperately hungry. While taking bites, she kept her eyes on us, and over time, she eventually knew we were there for peace & help. Once close enough, I peeked inside at the pile of black fur babies in the corner. Oh boy. We knew we had to move everybody.
Once enough trust was built (by just hanging around, inactive), we brought out a cat carrier, with more tuna inside. Mama zipped right out, and into the carrier like a dream for more food. We closed its door, and kept her nearby so she could see if she wished, as we moved the kittens, one by one. We always kept them all together. We, lucky enough, had a spare bedroom in our house, that we chose to use for them. We brought everyone inside, gave them fresh water, warm blankets, litter boxes, and many areas in the room that had different style pet beds, so Mama would be able to *choose* one they would feel most comfortable in. We could tell Mama had almost never been in a house before. She looked so unnatural. But we built up enough trust for her to then focus completely on her kittens. And she did.
Come to find out (while researching, while raising them), that female cats, after giving birth, need almost TWICE as much food, due to the mechanics of her body, producing the milk to feed her young. If we had just left her in the first place... I just knew, she was having problems getting food, along with the stress of her environment. (Yes, and twice as many times changing her littler box, feew!) It was such an experience watching the family grow. What'd we get out of it? Well, a chair scratched to shreds (when we tried letting Mama out of the kitten room for some peace on her own), much laughter (seeing the kittens squatting in their littler box for the first time) & climbing around like little monkeys, and an amazing learning experience! When the kittens were fully weaned, we had the sad day of putting Mama and the young ones up for adoption at the Vet in town, that has an adoption center. It was so hard to let go, but they all needed to begin their own journeys.
And yes... I did keep a kitten. I chose the one, who chose me. He has been the love of my life, and in my book, the best cat in the universe! :) -
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Tue, May 6, 2008 - 5:07 PMThats such a wonderful story!! Im glad you did something before mama cat starved to death or one of your brother in laws put and end to it. I need to make sure Mama cat gets fed more because she is very skinny.
Thank you for sharing your story! Im happy that things turned out good in the end. Its nice when an animal chooses you. I live with my dad right now (full time college student), and he told me I couldn't keep any of the kittens. I was so mad but Ill just keep it over at the boyfriends house until I move :) -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:20 AMKitten chow is best for pregnant and lactating queens, and if you don't have kitten chow then some KMR kitten replacer milk is a good substitute. Just make sure you aren't making her ill by checking the consistency of poop. I never gave more than a half cup full twice a day of milk replacer to the queen. If you notice fat deposits on her, cut back a tiny bit on the food and make sure the kittens are nursing properly. -
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 6:37 AMThanx that helps because I wasnt sure what the best food was for her!!
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